Trading Without a Stop: What It Really Costs
Trading without a stop can give you a very high win rate, right up to the day one loss wipes out weeks of small wins. Here's the arithmetic.
Written By
Karolina Hansen
Key Takeaways
- With no stop, you tend to hold losing trades until they come back, and that pushes the win rate up.
- The ones that don't come back turn into very big losses.
- Even at a 90% win rate, a few big losses can wipe out a long run of small wins.
- If you keep moving the stop further away after entry, you might as well not have one.
- Keep track of how many of your trades had a stop at entry, and how the ones without a stop turned out.
Some traders skip the stop because they're sick of being 'stopped out and then watching price turn'. Others tell themselves they'll close it by hand if it goes wrong. Either way, it often looks fine for a while. The win rate is high and the account creeps up. Then one or two trades arrive that don't turn, and the loss can be bigger than everything the wins made.
Why No-Stop Trading Feels Fine
Losers get a second chance
When a trade goes against you, you can sit in it until it comes back.
Small wins pile up
Lots of trades close with a small profit, and it feels like it's working.
One trade does not come back
Then nothing is there to stop the loss.
Your win rate tells you how often you won. It doesn't tell you how much you lost the times you didn't.
Ten Trades, With and Without a Stop
Illustrative example. A trader takes ten gold trades with no stop. Nine get held until they're in profit and closed at +$40 each. The tenth just keeps going the wrong way and finally gets closed at −$500.
Illustrative example: ten trades with no stop ($)
Now take the same ten entries with a stop that risks $50 on each. Say two of the nine winners dipped through the stop before recovering, so they become −$50 losses. The big loser gets capped at −$50 too.
| No stop | Stop risking $50 | |
|---|---|---|
| Wins | 9 × +$40 = +$360 | 7 × +$40 = +$280 |
| Losses | 1 × −$500 = −$500 | 3 × −$50 = −$150 |
| Win rate | 90% | 70% |
| Total | −$140 | +$130 |
Total for the ten trades (worked example)
The Win Rate You Need
How often you need to win just to break even comes down to the size of your average win and your average loss. Break-even win rate = average loss ÷ (average win + average loss).
Win rate needed to break even (worked example)
Moved Stops Count Too
If you place a stop and then drag it further away every time price gets close, you've got the same problem as having no stop. You planned to risk $50, you keep widening it, and the real loss ends up at $100, $150 or worse. Moving a stop closer to lock in profit is a different thing. That takes risk off the table.
Stop moved away
Widened after entry
- Puts more money at risk
- Usually done in a panic, with price a few points away
- Turns the loss you planned into a bigger one
Stop moved closer
Tightened or to break-even
- Takes money off the table
- Can be written into your plan
- Will stop you out early on some winners
Checking Your Stop Discipline
- How many of your trades had a stop in place when you entered?
- How did the trades without a stop do in total? Not how often they won, but what they added up to.
- How many times did you move a stop further away, and what did those trades end up losing?
- Look at your five biggest losses. How many had no stop, or a stop you moved?
See how your trades actually did with a stop and without one.
Open Your JournalFrequently Asked Questions
Not really. A mental stop only works if you act at the right moment, and that's hardest to do when the trade is going badly. A stop sitting with your broker works even if you've gone to make a cup of tea.
Usually it's a few big losses outweighing lots of small wins. Compare your average loss with your average win, and check whether the big losses came from trades with no stop.
You can, but until it's in, nothing limits the loss. Put the stop on as part of the order and that gap disappears.
Educational content only, not financial advice. Examples are illustrative arithmetic and exclude costs. Trading involves risk, and past performance does not guarantee future results.
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